Icqpro2003b

[icqpro2003b]

I am running icqpro2003b, however, when I try to minimize the main window, it will not minimize to the bottom task bar, I have to click on the green flower in the task bar to open the main window all the time, has anyone else experiencing this problem and how can I fix the problem, thankyou.

[locustfurnace]

I just installed icq2003b after reading your post, and i do not have any problems minimizing the program. are you clicking on the upper right hand corner button that looks like an underscore _ ?
If your not able to see the buttons, maybe you should change the skin back to "classic", this will make those buttons alot bigger, and easier to see.
Which build of 2003b are you running? I am running build #3916, not sure if there are any previous 2003b builds, but if there are, maybe that was a glitch, check your build version, if it is not the newest - #3916, then you might want to consider updating again.

[Cynthia]

Can you tell me where I go/look to find the build #3916 to see if thats the build I have?

[locustfurnace]

The build # should be in the ABOUT box dialog. Click on the Main button, then Help, and then the About ICQ.

[Guest]

Does anyone know a website that I can download icqpro2003a for w98se?

[locustfurnace]

[list]
ICQPro2003a (ftp://ftp.rndavia.ru/pub/windows/ICQ/icqpro2003a.exe) (3.80megs)

[cynthia]

I am running #3916 build, and tried what was suggested as above, however, when I open icq, the green flower is at the bottom of the task bar near the clock and I have to click the flower to open icq,

1. in 2003a icq when i logged onto icq, the main icq box would open automatically-version 2003b does not do this and,

2. when i do open version 2003b and i try to minimize the main box, it will not minimize to the task bar at the bottom of the screen, it just disappears and I have to click on the flower again to reopen it, any solutions to these 2 problems for me anyone?

[locustfurnace]

ICQ2003a, when you minimize it will not minimize to the taskbar, it will go to the systray, and appear as a flower icon, this has been the same for a long time.
For any changes to be made you will need to go the the programs configuration menu to make whatever changes you want.
Click the Main button and then select Preferences. If ICQ is setup in Simple mode, you want to switch to Advanced mode to be able to make more adjustments as you want. this too is changed via the Menu button, you should see an option for Advanced mode, if the option says "switch to Simple Mode" then you know you are presently working in advanced mode and no need to make the switch.
Once you get to the preferences you can make alot of changes there regarding how ICQ operates.
There are changes you can make in the Alerts and Notifications option for minimizing.
To make ICQ open whenever you receive a message, you will make changes under the Contact List option, which is also under the preferences.

[cynthia]

Thankyou for your reply, I'm sure when I minimized icq2003a, the main icq box went to the task bar, why is it that the main box in 2003b does not open automatically when you log on into 2003b and where do i find the section to be able to switch to advanced and simple modes?

[locustfurnace]

I do not have icq2003b installed now. But icq has not changed too much in the past several years. All options should be under the main/menu.
If there is not one, then it is possible it was removed from 2003b. If it was removed, then it just uses the default modes as it had for versions in the past.
I have icq2003a installed at the moment. and i can not get it to minimize to the taskbar, just to the tray, Since i have been using icq since '98, i do not rem it ever minimizing the the taskbar, if it could, then that must have been a setting one had to change.
Are you referring to the contact list minimizing to the taskbar, or the individual message dialog boxes? Each message box can minimize to the taskbar.
Maybe you should try reading the icq help file, which also can be accessed from the Main/menu.
And if you can not find your answer there, then stopping over at icq's web site might also help shed some light on what you seek.

[cynthia]

With 2003a when I open icq, (what I call the main box where you have your contact names etc), I was able to minimise this box to the bar at the bottom of the screen, now with 2003b, when I click the minimize (_) button the main box will not default to the bar at the bottom of the screen, it seems to disappear to the green flower and each time I want to open the main box, I have to click the green flower to open it. What I am trying to establish is:

1. How do I minimize the main box to the bar at the bottom of the screen, if this is not possible, why is there a minimize button (_) on the main box as well as a (x) button?

I've explained it the best I can.

[locustfurnace]

The minimze button minimizes the app to the systray, the x will close ICQ down, these are generally just default widgets.
Did you look into the preferences and try any of those to see if they will make a change? I know there is AUTO-HIDE, which says it will minimze to the taskbar, but when i enable it is does not send it to the taskbar, just to the systray
I know the message dialog box will move to the taskbar, while the contact list can minimize to the systray (where the clock is and flower icon) This is why there is a minimize button, so you can send the contact list to the systray.

Did you look on the icq website, that would be your best bet in trying to find a solution, since they should have created a complete FAQ section for users.

[cynthia]

I do no with version 2003a the main box would minimize, where do I go to find the autohide that you mention, yes I've checked the icq hep pages and there is nothing there to assist me with this problem

[cynthia]

further to my post above, was chattin with an icq friend and she tells me that when she minimizes her main window box, it does go to the task bar.

[locustfurnace]

I asked a friend also if they could get it go to the taskbar, they said yes, then after some more questioning, what the thought was the taskbar, really was the system tray. So make certain it is really the taskbar and not system tray they are referring to.

As mentioned all the configurating is found under the Main/Menu. Then the Preferrences. The auto hide feature was under the Contact list section of the Preferrences. But i have it enabled at the moment, and it goes right to the systray ever the time expires.

Have you used other chat programs besides ICQ? If the ICQ feature you trying to enable is not possible, could you maybe be confusing ICQ with another chat programs, such as AOL IMS? As i said, i have been using ICQ for over 5 years, and i can't rem the contact list ever sitting on the taskbar. As far as i rem it has always gone hiding to the system tray.

[cynthia]

does 2003a version have the same type of log in screen as featured in the version on this website:

http://www.icq.com/icqtour/public_private_modes.html

if it is different could sum1 post the picture of the 2003a log on screen here 4 me, thanks.

[locustfurnace]

No, they are different, that skin i believe comes from the icqlite versions which were merged into the 2003b version.
The configuration menu i have made mention of are not found on the login screen, they are found on the contact list. Which you can access once you have logged in.

The Contact list looks like this,(not much changes from this version to iq2003a).
http://www.pc-extreme.de/downloads/program.../icq/icq_s1.gif (http://www.pc-extreme.de/downloads/programme/screenshots/icq/icq_s1.gif)
ICQ Preferences image (http://www.sias.de/berichte/icq-preferences.gif)

[cynthia]

thankyou for your assistance and help, i have now deleted icq2003b and installed 2003a pro, however, I want to minimize the main box screen (the one that contains your contact list, main etc) to the system tray, (just like minimizing a message received from someone to the system tray), however, when I do minimize ( _ ) the main screen box, it disappears into the green flower located in the system tray and I dont want to have to click the green flower each time I wish to open the main box. How can I program it to do this?

[cynthia]

further to the above, this is what I call the main box

http://www.pc-extreme.de/downloads/program.../icq/icq_s1.gif

[Guest]

this is what I refer to as the main box: (problem with the above link)

[locustfurnace]

the link you posted is not properly formatted, please check your link and make the corrections.
The main or Menu box is on the contact list as shown on the link i posted.

[locustfurnace]

Originally posted by cynthia@Jan 25 2004, 05:06 AM
I want to minimize the main box screen (the one that contains your contact list, main etc) to the system tray, (just like minimizing a message received from someone to the system tray), however, when I do minimize ( _ ) the main screen box, it disappears into the green flower located in the system tray and I dont want to have to click the green flower each time I wish to open the main box. How can I program it to do this?
as i said, I can not recall in the 6 years i have used all differnt versions of ICQ, of it have ever been able to minimize to the taskbar, it has always, as far as i can recall, gone to the system tray.
You might be trying to do something that is the program was not designed to do.

When you minimize a message from a user, it goes to the Taskbar, not the system tray.
The contact list will go to the system tray as a flower icon.

You have to realize that the taskbar, and system tray are seperate docks. When you minimize a chat message, it goes to the taskbar, which also has the Start icon.
The System tray is another dock, it houses icons such as the clock, volume icon, your network connection lights, and the ICQ flower.
if you dont want to keep clicking on the flower, you can do many things, such as make those users you are talking with as floating contacts or stop the Contact List from minimizing all together.
these are options you can adjust in the preferences.

[cynthia]

why does the main box have a minimize button on it if you are unable to minimize it?

[locustfurnace]

Originally posted by cynthia+Jan 25 2004, 07:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cynthia @ Jan 25 2004, 07:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>why does the main box have a minimize button on it if you are unable to minimize it?[/b]
I explained this already.
<!--QuoteBegin--locustfurnace@Jan 21 2004, 01:34 AM
The minimze button minimizes the app to the systray, the x will close ICQ down.......while the contact list can minimize to the systray (where the clock is and flower icon) This is why there is a minimize button, so you can send the contact list to the systray.
[/quote]
When you say main box, you are referring to the Contact List?
You are able to minimize the contact list, to the system tray. If you enabled the sticky bit on the program or disabled the auto-hide feature, it would be locked on the desktop at all times. Which many people do in fact does this, but there are certain times when they wish to minimize the contact list, as it may get in the way, so they need that option to be able to minimize it to the system tray when the situation calls for it, otherwise they would have to contantly keep changing the behaviour of the program, which would be too much of a hassle.

[cynthia]

what i am trying to do is how/why the menu box (the box that opens when you click the flower icon that contains your contact list), will not sit in the system or task tray when I minimize it (i do not know what that tool bar at the bottom of the screen is called that contains the clock/icq flower, task scheduler etc), when i click the minimize button on the menu box of icq that contains your contact list, it appears to disappear into the green icq flower, what I want the menu box to do is;

minimize to either the task bar or system tray, just the same as you minimize a message received from someone on your contact list. What part of icq do I go to, to enable this 2 be done?

PS: what is the sticky bit you are reffering to in your last post?

[locustfurnace]

Originally posted by cynthia+Jan 25 2004, 11:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cynthia @ Jan 25 2004, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>(i do not know what that tool bar at the bottom of the screen is called that contains the clock/icq flower, task scheduler etc)...[/b]

Originally posted by -locustfurnace@Jan 25 2004, 05:15 AM
The System tray is another dock, it houses icons such as the clock, volume icon, your network connection lights, and the ICQ flower.

Originally posted by -cynthia@Jan 25 2004, 11:14 PM
what I want the menu box to do is; minimize to either the task bar or system tray, just the same as you minimize a message received from someone on your contact list. What part of icq do I go to, to enable this 2 be done?

Originally posted by -locustfurnace@Jan 25 2004, 05:15 AM
When you minimize a message from a user, it goes to the Taskbar, NOT the system tray.
The contact list will go to the system tray as a flower icon.

Originally posted by -cynthia@Jan 25 2004, 11:14 PM
when i click the minimize button on the menu box of icq that contains your contact list, it appears to disappear into the green icq flower, The menu box you are referring to is infact the contact list.
The contact list (menu box) only has ever gone to the system tray dock as a flower icon. As i said, i can not recall it ever having docked on the taskbar, it has always disappeared as a flower icon to the system tray dock.

You want the contact list (menu box) to sit on the taskbar, I have never seen this happen in any version I&#39;ve used.
I went through all the icq2003a preferrences tonight, enabling each and every single one, using the default settings also, and it never docked on the taskbar, each time i clicked the minimize widget, it always disappeared as a flower icon in the system tray dock. Which has been the way icq has always worked, and whenever i want to re open the contact list (menu box) i had to always double click, or right click on the flower icon.
If what you want is even possible, then it has to be documented in the icq help files, or on the web site. Which i checked I did not see any referrences to this being mentioned.

<!--QuoteBegin--cynthia@Jan 25 2004, 11:14 PM
what i am trying to do is how/why the menu box (the box that opens when you click the flower icon that contains your contact list), will not sit in the system or task tray when I minimize it [/quote]
Because it was not designed to do this. What you are trying to do is something that can&#39;t happen. It will only ever disappear, and to make it reappear, you have to click on the flower icon.

[Guest]

Thankyou for your reply which is very much appreciated, however, below is a copy of advice I received from icq to overcome this problem, however, I&#39;m not sure if they understood what my problem was and they have given me instructions on what to do, which does not pertain to my problem.

1. Backup your message history. To do so please shut down ICQ (&#39;Main&#39; menu
button ->Shut Down), now copy all files inside the directory &#092;ICQ&#092;2003b&#092;
into a different location on your hard disk. (The 2003b folder is by default
under: C:&#092;Program Files&#092;ICQ&#092;2003b)

2. Run the ICQ Database Administrator feature - Aimed to fix problems in
your local database which contains your message history and contact list
information. While ICQ is shut down, click the START button -> Programs ->
ICQ -> ICQ DB Administrator.
Choose the ICQ user and click &#39;Next&#39;. Click the &#39;Fix - Fix your databse if
errors interrupt your use of ICQ&#39; radio button and click &#39;Next&#39;.
After the procedure is completed, click the "Done" button.

I do not know how/what to do in respect to their number 1 instruction as above?

[locustfurnace]

They sent you instructions on rebuilding your contact list. I do not see running through these steps as achieving what you want.

Step 1, says to backup. You backup your contact list as instructed. The part that says

now copy all files inside the directory &#092;ICQ&#092;2003b&#092; into a different location on your hard disk. (The 2003b folder is by default under: C:&#092;Program Files&#092;ICQ&#092;2003b).

Requires you to enter the icq folder, which you can do by going through the My Computer desktop icon. Double licking on the C: drive icon. then navigating to the Program Files folder.
Then you will look for the icq folder. Or you can copy n paste this line into the Start, Run comand
"c:&#092;program files&#092;icq"
this should open the Windows Explorer file manager, and stick you right into the icq folder, so that you can then procede to follow out the instructions given to you.
once you are in the proper ICQ folder, you will backup the folder 2003b, which is as simple as right clicking on the folder, selecting COPY, then click anywhere and right click and select paste, this will create a folder called Copy of 2003b, which will be your backup copy. All the files should be identical to the 2003b folder.

This should take care of your #1 step. follow instrcutions for the rest of the steps. As far as these procedures permitting the Contact list to dock on the taskbar, I do not see how.