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Lieutenantdan
03-11-2004, 08:18 PM
I recently recieved an MP3 player as a gift and alot of the songs i would like are in .wma format and my MP3 player for somereason cannot read .wma's. Ive been searching for a long time (months) for an MP3 converter that is 1) Free and 2) works lol. It would be a MAJOR miracle if you guys could spend some time and try to find out for me. I've given up hope. My teacher came across this site looking for Kazaalite and shared it with the class so i figured i could check here and have some hope. If you can't find one its no biggy, but if you have any references or any clue about any, your help would be much appreciated..


Thanks
LieutenantDan

locustfurnace
03-11-2004, 09:08 PM
Mp3 & wma are not the same, they both are compressed formats, just different. So a portable mp3 will play just mp3's. If the player included a decoder for wma, then it would play it. Just dont expect it to.
The problem with what you want to do is that the quality of mp3's are not that great to begin with. So you will be re-encoding a second time. Since each format is lossy, which means data is lost during the compression stage, you will be doubling the amount of degrading audio.
I am not aware of any transcoders for wma -> mp3, so you will not benefit by the advancements of transcoding, unless someone else knows one for wma->mp3.
The only encoder you will want will be the lame mp3 encoder, it is a free encoder, based on the mpeg 1 layer 3 ISO. Other encoders can cost you money.
Some hardware decoders follow the ISO specifications very strictly, so you will want to make sure when you encode, if the songs do not play, then you may want to be sure to use padding for ISO compliance.
This is something lame can also do. Though not sure what hardware decoders are that picky.
I'd suggest you try using dBpowerAmp Converter (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm), make sure you also download the appropriate codec's, available on the same site under codec central.
This program will convert your wma to mp3. This means it will take the mp3 file, decode it to wav and then re encode it to mp3.
Just another note, Mp3Pro is not the same as Mp3. Most portable players will not be able to handle this format.
Mp3 is "Mpeg 1 layer 3" and Mp3Pro is "Mpeg 2 layer 3"

guest_Tom
03-12-2004, 12:06 PM
If the wma files are proteced by Digital Rights Management (DRM) no software, including dbpoweramp music converter, will be able to transcode/convert them.

locustfurnace
03-12-2004, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by guest_Tom@Mar 12 2004, 01:06 PM
If the wma files are proteced by Digital Rights Management (DRM) no software, including dbpoweramp music converter, will be able to transcode/convert them.
True, but that does not mean you cant force the source into an mp3.
Since the wma is already in lower quality, if one really wants the song, all you need to do is play the song in whatever player you like, and press record on the built in Windows sound recorder, or something better such as Audacity, CoolEdit, and then save it as an mp3.
The DRM just makes converting the song a 2-step process.

guest_Tom
03-12-2004, 12:55 PM
tis true but I think that we should convince Lieutenantdan to use another format instead ;)

TheBulbasaurfreak
03-12-2004, 02:10 PM
This one is a cd ripper as well:

http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/

guest_Tom
03-12-2004, 02:17 PM
Unfortunately it is not a converter. I am a great fan of Audiograbber despite a lack of secure or paranoia mode and it is great to see it as now freeware.

On another note I must register someday....

locustfurnace
03-12-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by TheBulbasaurfreak+Mar 12 2004, 03:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheBulbasaurfreak @ Mar 12 2004, 03:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>This one is a cd ripper as well: http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/[/b]
Ripping is not what the user is asking about, they want a program to do format conversions.

<!--QuoteBegin--guest_Tom@Mar 12 2004, 01:55 PM
tis true but I think that we should convince Lieutenantdan to use another format instead ;)[/quote]
Yes, but as you are well aware of; which you also noted in a previous posting, there is not many harware devices which support anything other than mp3. Which is what this poster is wanting. Since their hardware device does not decode wma. I&#39;d really not suggest anyone ever use wma, or wmv for that matter. As the video format lacks the smooth scrubbing/seeking ability one can do with mpeg encoded videos. I recently read that windows media will be included in the newest DVD format, HD_DVD, or whatever that have abbreviated it from.

TheBulbasaurfreak
03-13-2004, 03:26 PM
It has a kind of converter. But locustfurnace will point you to some programs.

daochay
03-24-2004, 09:39 AM
d8power Amp Converter (http://about-cnet.com.com/3000-2140-10249519.html?tag=lst-0-6)

I&#39;m really not the much of a techie . . . but I kinda get your problem ; but I could just think I understand when I really don&#39;t... ummm :blink: . The above URL should take you directly to dBpowerAmp Music Converter 10.0. Here is the publishers description :

Publisher&#39;s Description
Often called the Swiss Army knife of audio, dMC can digitally rip sound from audio CDs to a multitude of formats. Convert from one format to another while preserving ID tags. Nearly every audio type is supported, including MP3, MP4, Windows Media Audio (WMA), OGG Vorbis, AAC, Monkey&#39;s Audio, and FLAC (with optional installs from Codec Central). For Windows Explorer integration, right-click Convert To to pop up useful information on audio files (such as bit rate and length). Record from LPs with an optional Auxiliary Input install.

I hope I was aleast in the right ball park and it helps you. :)

locustfurnace
03-24-2004, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by daochay@Mar 24 2004, 10:39 AM
I hope I was aleast in the right ball park and it helps you. :)
Not sure repeating links is too helpful. As I had already posted the dBpowerAMP link in this thread, infact it was the second posting; the first reply to the question. Make sure if your are going to post links, that they have not already been dropped.
Got another suggestion?

myfriendwilly7
03-24-2004, 11:22 PM
considering that the old versions of MusicMatch Jukebox are on this site, im kinda surprised no one has said anything. musicmatch converts wma, wav, and mp3 files to each other. the newest version of mmjb doesnt support wmas because of the whole protection crap, but before that was invented it did. going back to about version 7.1, i believe, should do the trick. and also if i remember right, you may not be able to go straight from wma to mp3. you may have to go wma--&#62;wav first, and then wav--&#62;mp3. also, before you make your mp3s make sure you find the setting that ups the mp3 quality processing from normal to highest. for an audiophile like myself, normal sucked. highest takes about twice as long (still fast) but is well worth it. its in advanced settings somewhere; use help if u cant find it. good luck&#33;

"The Big Willy"

locustfurnace
03-24-2004, 11:34 PM
Rem also that older MMJB may not be able to convert the newer wma v7,9 or whatever number they have upped to.
Just as the old winmedia player with default codecs can not play newer videos compressed in the newest format. Also, does the MMJB handle the lossless format of wma?
Also. what version of the mp3 codec would it be using to encode the freshly decoded files to? With using bBpowerAmp you will be getting the latest lame encoder. For music formats, if your wanting the best quality you can acheive with these formats, then you should be using the latest releases, not an older encoder.
Also, dBpowerAMP can handle the newest audio formats; which are better than mp3, such as AAC, Ogg, Musepack.

myfriendwilly7
03-24-2004, 11:46 PM
Ill take one question at a time lol...

no, it doesnt do lossless wma, no it doesnt do the newest version of wma, no it doesnt even use the lame mp3 encoder. But thats ok cuz it sounds perfect. i use 192kbps; 160kbps sounds fine but i have enough drive space to "make sure" im not losing any audible information. I can tell a difference between 160 and 128 no matter what codec it is (lame, etc). And while dBwhatever sounds very nice, there arent any OGG players, and remember the original question was from someone who had an MP3 player. He needs good mp3s, not new version wmas or oggs or ne thing else. :D

"The Big Willy"

locustfurnace
03-25-2004, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by myfriendwilly7+Mar 25 2004, 12:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (myfriendwilly7 @ Mar 25 2004, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> But thats ok cuz it sounds perfect. i use 192kbps; 160kbps sounds fine but i have enough drive space to "make sure" im not losing any audible information. [/b]
There are currently a few hardware ogg players, Yes, there are many software ogg players.
When you encode a music file, no matter how much disk space you have - which has nothing to do with lossing data, you are tossing out info. The lossy part of mp3 is not "how much disk space you have", its tossed out by algorithms, not disk space. Never to be recovered. Lossless does not toss away data. Mp3&#39;s do.
<!--QuoteBegin--myfriendwilly7@Mar 25 2004, 12:46 AM
He needs good mp3s, not new version wmas or oggs or ne thing else [/quote]
Which he wont get by using an older version of MMJB

myfriendwilly7
03-25-2004, 12:22 AM
I know that. The key word is audible. I said I&#39;m not losing any AUDIBLE information, meaning that I cant hear a difference. I know if you were to convert them to wav and then compare that to an original wav file straight off a cd u could SEE a difference. But the whole point of mp3s is compessing in a way that you cant HEAR a difference.

Yes there are plenty of software ogg players. I meant that for the most part there arent any hardware ones, which is what the original guy was talking about-- he has a hardware mp3 player.

And LAME gets their stuff from FRAUNHOFER, who invented the mp3 technology, and fraunhofer hasnt updated their mp3 technology, so how can the new lame enc be better, except for maybe removing some bugs? <_<

locustfurnace
03-25-2004, 12:33 AM
LAME does not get this software from FHG, they started building based on the ISO (International Standard Organization) paper. And have since replaced all code.
How can it be updated? the same way as the developers of Ogg-Vorbis, or FAAC have done, but writing new code. There are many independant developers working on AAC as well, from memmo&#39;s FAAC/D to Igors, Psytel AAC, and then there is Sony, Dolby, Thomson.
Mp3 from lame is constantly being developed.



Originally posted by http://lame.sourceforge.net/about.html
LAME started life as a GPL&#39;d patch against the dist10 ISO demonstration source and thus was incapable of producing an mp3 stream or even being compiled by itself But in May 2000, the last remnants of the ISO source code were replaced, and now LAME is the source code for a fully LGPL&#39;d MP3 encoder with speed and quality to rival all commercial competitors


Right, the hardware debate was already discussed earlier in the thread.

myfriendwilly
03-25-2004, 12:39 AM
I stand corrected. :(

I still say the sound quality is perfect at 192 with MMJB. I would be curious to see LAME bring that number down to 128 with theirs. 1/10th wave file size with CD-comparable audible quality would be nice (192 is more like 1/6th). Can they make that much of an improvement? Time will tell, i suppose.

"The Big Willy"

locustfurnace
03-25-2004, 12:49 AM
I dont believe that they will improve the quality that much, since there are already formats which do sound better than mp3, such as ogg, AAC.
The improvement issue I believe is for more accuracy today, iproved speed, improved in the pre-echo, quantization, filtering, etc etc. But I dont see an improvement in compressing the filesizes.
If you want higher quality in smaller filesizes, try your hand at ogg.
AAC, OGG, Muspack, compete with the MPEG4 standard, Some AAC is already titled AAC-MP4.
If your wanting high quality but dont care about the filesizes, then you can switch to mp2 or musepack (mpc).
If you want to 5+ channel sound, then look to AC3.
Ogg should eventually handle 6 channel sound.
If you want the best quality you can get, either keep it in wav/aiff or use a lossless encoder, such as ape, flac, shrtn

myfriendwilly7
03-25-2004, 02:02 AM
For my use, i generally go with 192kbps mp3, just because i cant hear a difference and mp3 is the most widely used format. Sure, I could go with wav, but it takes like 6 times the size than my mp3s do, without a noticable difference in sound quality. (And this is with musicmatch... B)

And there is no such thing as lossless encoding. If you compress it, something is missing. The only exception to this is winzip style compression, because that&#39;s only removing redundant data. Therefore, anything but the original wav file will be different.

And i didnt know about the coming 6-channel oggs. Nice, i cant wait :D That will be great for keeping my ripped dvds small and still high quality.

"The Big Willy"

locustfurnace
03-25-2004, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by myfriendwilly7@Mar 25 2004, 03:02 AM
And there is no such thing as lossless encoding.
?
Yes there is. There is even JPEG lossless formats now.

Monkey&#39;s Audio Lossless (http://www.monkeysaudio.com/)
Monkey’s Audio is a fast and easy way to compress digital music. Unlike traditional methods such as mp3, ogg, or lqt that permanently discard quality to save space, Monkey’s Audio only makes perfect, bit-for-bit copies of your music. That means it always sounds perfect – exactly the same as the original. Even though the sound is perfect, it still saves a lot of space. (think of it as a beefed-up Winzip™ for your music)
FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec (http://flac.sourceforge.net/)
Grossly oversimplified, FLAC is similar to MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without any loss in quality. This is similar to how Zip works, except with FLAC you will get much better compression because it is designed specifically for audio, and you can play back compressed FLAC files in your favorite player (or your car or home stereo, see links to the right for supported devices) just like you would an MP3 file.
Windows Media Audio 9 Lossless (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/audio.aspx)
WMA 9 Lossless is a great new codec to use for archiving CD collections. Audiophiles can copy their CDs into this lossless format for efficient storage. This content can then be transferred to Windows Media Audio 9 based CDs for playback.
Shorten (http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/comp.speech/Section3/Software/shorten.html)
fast waveform coder suitable for a speech and music signals in a wide variety of file formats. The degree of compression is adjustable from lossless to three bits a sample. 16bit 16kHz speech generally attains 50% lossless compression and 16:3 compression of CDROM quality speech is obtainable with only minor audiable degredation.
OptimFROG (http://ghido.shelter.ro/)
OptimFROG is a lossless audio compression program. Its main goal is to reduce at maximum the size of audio files, while premitting bit identical restoration for all input. It is similar with the ZIP compression, but it is highly specialized to compress audio data.
WavPack (http://www.wavpack.com/)
WavPack allows you to losslessly compress (and restore) both 16 and 24-bit audio files in the .WAV format. Unlike "lossy" compression schemes (like MP3) that discard information, WavPack converts the audio data into a more compact form so that the restored files are digitally identical to the original source. It&#39;s somewhat like the file compression portion of WinZIP except that it&#39;s optimized for audio data. Like other lossless compression schemes the data reduction varies with the source, but it is generally between 25% and 50% for typical popular music and somewhat better than that for classical music and other sources with greater dynamic range.
La (http://www.lossless-audio.com/download.htm)
is a lossless audio compressor
Lossless Audio Compression with LTAC (http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/wer/liebchen/ltac.html)
LTAC (Lossless Transform Audio Compression) allows for lossless audio compression of PCM coded audio signals (16 bit), i.e. decoding results bit for bit in the original bit stream of the PCM coded signal. In contrast to LTAC there exist a lot of lossy coding algorithms like MPEG, ATRAC and AC-3, which yield higher compression ratios but in any case lead to coding distortions - nothing for HiFi purists and professionals.


Lossless Image compression

.div (http://www.divij.8k.com/)
is a new and efficient, loss less Image compression algorithm that is able to provide better compression than the currently available loss less image compression formats in the market. The compression algorithm provides us with data in such a way that the image becomes virtually interlaced.
JPEG-LS (http://www.hpl.hp.com/loco/)
JPEG-LS is the new lossless/near-lossless compression standard for continuous-tone images, ISO-14495-1/ITU-T.87. The standard is based on the LOCO-I algorithm (LOw COmplexity LOssless COmpression for Images) developed at Hewlett-Packard Laboratories.
RICAZip (http://www.ricazip.com/)
RICAZip is a family of software products for lossless image compression
Portable Network Graphics (http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/)
A Turbo-Studly Image Format with Lossless Compression

Other compression, mostly used to compress non-audio data
LZO and the LZO (http://www.oberhumer.com/opensource/lzo/)
LZO is a portable lossless data compression library written in ANSI C.
zlib (http://www.gzip.org/zlib/)
zlib is designed to be a free, general-purpose, legally unencumbered -- that is, not covered by any patents -- lossless data-compression library for use on virtually any computer hardware and operating system
NRV generic data compression library (http://www.oberhumer.com/products/nrv/) (megs)
oberhumer.com has designed and implemented the on-board lossless data compression module of the NASA Mars Exploration Rovers, better known under the names Spirit and Opportunity.
UCL (http://www.oberhumer.com/opensource/ucl/) (megs)
is a portable lossless data compression library written in ANSI C.
GRZip (http://magicssoft.ru/?folder=projects&page=GRZip)
is a high-performance file compressor based on Burrows-Wheeler Transform and Advanced Weighted Frequency Counting. It uses The Block-Sorting Lossless Data Compression Algorithm, which has received considerable attention over recent years for both its simplicity and effectiveness.

If interested, one can read about lossless compression here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lossless_compression

guest_Tom
03-25-2004, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by myfriendwilly7@Mar 25 2004, 03:02 AM
And there is no such thing as lossless encoding.
Really?

Encoding to Wave and FLAC is Lossless. As is encoding to Shorten, Lossless Audio, TA, Optim Frog, Monkeys Audio etc.

guest_Tom
03-25-2004, 02:17 AM
Damn - beaten to it&#33; :D

myfriendwilly7
03-25-2004, 02:20 AM
Lets not be picky. I believe I said "except for winzip style compression." Monkeys Audio simply gets rid of redundant data, like winzip. Wav is bit-for-bit what comes off a CD (if you go with a 44KHz 16 bit wave). That is a big difference from encoding to mp3, wma, ogg, or any of the other large-scale compression encoders out there. And that is what i meant. And if there is anything out there that claims to be lossless and the compression ratio is greater than MAYBE 5% (making the new file 95% the original wave size), it is lying.

"The Big Willy"

locustfurnace
03-25-2004, 02:28 AM
wav is just a container format for many types of other formats, such as uncompressed &#39;PCM,&#39; (Pulse Code Modulation), you can have a mp3 encoded song stuffed into a wav file. you can also have an ADPCM, &#39;Adaptive Differential Pulse Code Modulation&#39; in a wav format container. When you rip a cd on a Apple or SGI, its not a wav format, its an .aiff/.aif.

PCM is the native format used by WAV and AIFF files for representing sound.

myfriendwilly7
03-25-2004, 02:36 AM
I spoke in generalities. In all my posts, when I have said a wav file, I meant a PCM-format wav file, of CD quality. Since I was discussing mp3s and songs and stuff like that, I didnt think to specify it as such. My apologies for any confusion that may have caused, with apple users or anyone else. I have windows, and I use wave files for pretty much only songs from CDs, and made the writer&#39;s mistake of assuming the reader will read it the way I would.

"The Big Willy"

Ivan
03-26-2004, 09:06 AM
ok guys, CDBurnerXP Pro its free, great and does everything MMJ prob will not let me post this. The new MMJ is crap. Why should I pay more to upgrade just to get super taging. This is BS.

locustfurnace
03-26-2004, 09:25 AM
Who said anything about paying to upgrade? This discussion is about mp3 conversion, not focusing on MMJB, if your not happy with MMJB, then you should email the developers. Or find something else. Look around in the forum to find freeware ID3v1/IDv2 tagging apps. You should not have to pay for a tagger, thats rather pointless. Better yet, I will drop the link to a previous posting with freeware tagging utilities.
http://www.oldversion.com/talk/index.php?a...&st=0#entry7065 (http://www.oldversion.com/talk/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=1940&st=0#entry7065)

Denz
04-26-2004, 04:45 PM
if a program is still needed, hit downloads.com and pick up *power mp3 converter*

converts ogg wma mp3... does the job for me and its free.....

rhondohslade
07-11-2004, 04:04 PM
Dan.....

This is MY understanding of the way that things work....

WiMP9 can indeed be used to compress files, however is is a LOSSLESS encoder --- that is, it squeezes out the silence in music tracks without losing any audio data, therefore it will enable one to then encode the "squeezed" file into the LOSSY MP3 format without incurring an unacceptable audio penalty.

That said...the best solution that I have found for MP3 encoding is to use Exact Audio Copy (EAC), which is free for the download and registration consists of sending the author a postcard with stamp (not postage meter imprint) <speaking of which...I STILL need to do so> along with the aforementioned LAME encoder. MaximumPC has an EXCELLENT article on how to install and configure the programs....I have used this setup with a variable 192Kbps bitrate and have seen it encode as high as 360Kbps and as low as 92Kbps, depending upon the musical complexity of any given passage with a track.

I hope that this helps you in your quest.

BTW....EAC is also "backwards compatible"; ie: it will take and MP3 files and DEcompress them into regular audio format for burning so that one could play a burned audio CD in a car player....WORKS WELL in this mode too&#33;

Steve[COLOR=blue]
rhondohslade@yahoo.com[COLOR=red]

locustfurnace
07-11-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by rhondohslade+Jul 11 2004, 04:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhondohslade @ Jul 11 2004, 04:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>This is MY understanding of the way that things work....

WiMP9 can indeed be used to compress files, however is is a LOSSLESS encoder --- that is, it squeezes out the silence in music tracks without losing any audio data, therefore it will enable one to then encode the "squeezed" file into the LOSSY MP3 format without incurring an unacceptable audio penalty.[/b]

WMP is both Lossy and lossless, depends on what settings one opts for.
Lossless does not merely remove the silence, as if it did, then it would changing the length of the original piece, and each song would then be shorter than the original, which also would make the song appear to be playing faster then it should.
Being "lossless" means that no data/quality is lost in the compression - when uncompressed, the data will be identical to the original. Lossy will remove redundant information and also frequencies that are imperceptible to the human ears based on psychoacoustic research.

<!--QuoteBegin--rhondohslade@Jul 11 2004, 04:04 PM
That said...the best solution that I have found for MP3 encoding is to use Exact Audio Copy (EAC), .... along with the aforementioned LAME encoder....I have used this setup with a variable 192Kbps bitrate and have seen it encode as high as 360Kbps and as low as 92Kbps, depending upon the musical complexity of any given passage with a track.
BTW....EAC is also "backwards compatible"; ie: it will take and MP3 files and DEcompress them into regular audio format for burning so that one could play a burned audio CD in a car player....WORKS WELL in this mode too&#33;
[/quote]
EAC is an excellent CDDA extractor, it removes the CDDA on the music CD and places in as a wav file on your hard drive. Under the hood of EAC is lame, you can download and use lame in many front ends, or simply from the commandline which gives great power to the user. Lame is also the power behind dBPowerAMP, which has been mentioned on this site many times.
Lame is a good mp3 compressor if you want mp3&#39;s, though mp3 is fading away and being rapidly replaced with various AAC (Advanced Audio Codec). Mp3 was good in its day, but if you wanting the higher quality of your music preserved, use AAC, MPC or Ogg-Vorbis or Mp4.
Ofcourse those with enough disk space will opt for a lossless format. Which there is an AAC-Lossless format from what i understand.
I would stay away from Windows Media, unless you never plan to use any other operating system. But using Windows Media just helps Microsoft dictate standards which can greatly affect your ability to control your own music in the future. Personally i was never impressed with WMA, with its acquistion of Liquid Audio, it more than likely "innovated"; hence purchased someone elses IP; which was of high quality design and branded it as another Microsoft Innovation. This acquiring LA gave them their technology - most likely to come out with their lossless wma.

SoberTillNoon
07-11-2004, 09:06 PM
CDex is a very good converter. Check it out.

-W-

pun
07-18-2004, 12:28 PM
I&#39;ve found 2 WMA to MP3 converts. Both offer trials

First 1 (30 day trial)

Advanced Encode Decode Tools 1.062e (http://www.mediatwins.com/products/aedtools.htm) includes only Hi-Fi sound compression algorithms and a unique AC3 decoder. Easily converts between WMA, Mpeg Audio Layer 3, Ogg Vorbis and WAV PCM format audio files with ID3 tags support. It also decodes AC3 format files to WMA, Mpeg Audio Layer 3, Ogg Vorbis and WAV PCM formats. Features user-friendly multilingual interface and includes single-mode operation for one-file conversion, batch-mode for several files processing and Audio CD Ripping with FreeDB support.

Program Information

A striking all-in-one tool for home and office use with only Hi-Fi sound compression algorithms and a unique AC3 decoder.

Main features :

Easy Installation
Multilingual interface available in 12 languages.
Batch mode processing
Fastest WMA Decoder . Windows Media™ 9 Format New support for variable bit rate (VBR)
LAME MP3 DLL interface
AudioCD ripping mode* You can use the Audio CD ripping mode for converting audio tracks to any supported format.
FreeDB (CDDB) support With the help of CDDB/FreeDB you can download detailed Audio CD description from the Internet. Save your time - why type it again if someone had already done it?
Unique AC-3 decoder** AC-3 format file may contain up to 6 audio channels.

Second 1 (10 conversions)

ACE-HIGH MP3 WAV WMA OGG Converter (http://www.mp3towma.com/) is designed for converting batches of MP3, WAV, WMA, OGG Vorbis files from one formart to another on-the-fly. And it also supports editing MP3&#39;s id3 tags and normalzing WAVs.

Every time, you need to convert from one format to another, you need to click the tabs to set the focus to the right window, and then press the "Add ..." button to browse the source files for converting. After choosing the right files, then press the "Convert" button to start converting.

guest_cruZe
07-30-2004, 11:14 AM
Can anyone help me Im trying to convert WMA files to MP3 , Any ideas

Jaime Andrés
07-30-2004, 12:28 PM
I use audio convert ver.2.0.
Maybe someone could suggest a free alternative ?

DjSteff
08-04-2004, 08:33 AM
anybody have a good software to convert ogg wav mp3 etc..

:ph34r:

locustfurnace
08-04-2004, 09:51 AM
Search for the free ogg converters, dBPowerAmp, OggdropXP

Marty
10-17-2004, 07:28 AM
This is a very late reply, I know, but I have only just discovered this site.
Recording your wma files to mp3 can be done ina trice using Creative Audio Converter if you have it, but your sound card must have a "what you hear" setting as a recording source. (kind of a built in software patch cable).

There is another 2 step process for converting wma to mp3. Burn an audio cd of your wma files then rip them back to mp3 using mmjb or any of the other CD to mp3 rippers. Way to go if all else fails.

I wouldn&#39;t worry about the sound quality too much. In reality, most people listen to their mp3&#39;s and other "portable" music in less than ideal environments like the car, noisy public places, etc. It&#39;s not a format you would tolerate as an audiophile, but it&#39;s the way to go for music listening as a distraction, which it was it was designed for.

azcayote101
12-15-2004, 06:02 PM
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=7]This may have been asked a gazillion times, but to save time looking through past posts, what program should i use to convert .wav or .mp3 files into .ra&#39;s?

Steve

locustfurnace
12-15-2004, 06:23 PM
Saving who time? You, or the people having to repeat what has already been written? Since you posted in the wrong board already, I will have to spend MY time looking for the correct post.

azcayote101
12-15-2004, 09:16 PM
Thank you lucustfurnace. And, being new too(i take it) "your site", i apologize for posting on the wrong board, and making you do the extra work looking for the answer to my question. I just thought that the experts here would know what program i should use, without me searching through previous posts. Evidently i was wrong.

BTW, what board should i have posted on?

locustfurnace
12-15-2004, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by azcayote101@Dec 15 2004, 10:16 PM
And, being new too(i take it) "your site", i apologize for posting on the wrong board, and making you do the extra work looking for the answer to my question. I
No, its not my site, i just spend an enormous amount of my time moderating it. Trying to make it a very useful site. The reply is not demeaning to you, do not take it that way, but just a reply that anyone gets who does not do their part, and expects everyone else here to do it for others.

The boards on the front page, have a description, which pertains to what one would find in those boards. Keeping posts in the proper boards is supposed to help narrow done a search.

The board features a search engine, so no one has to manually search, just use it like any other search engine.

Its always good &#39;N&#39;etiquette for anyone NEW to a board to skim through the site, read a few posts, to get a feel for it before posting something.

azcayote101
12-16-2004, 07:53 AM
[FONT=Arial]I took your advice and tried the search engine, here&#39;s my result...

Sorry, an error occured. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don&#39;t know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information.

The error returned was:

Sorry, but we did not find any matches to display. Try again and broaden your search criteria. If you were searching for new posts since your last visit, it&#39;s possible that there are none to show. :blink:

I&#39;m not new to boards, just this one in general. I found out years ago that searching through previous posts, you read a bunch of garbage, so now i just cut to the chase.

Now, if you don&#39;t mind, can anyone answer my question?

locustfurnace
12-16-2004, 02:37 PM
How many times did you search? once? twice? Which keys words did you use? This site is all about finding hard to locate programs for people, many people come here cause they can not find programs themselves. Thats mostly because they do not have the proper understanding of how to search.

Yes, most sites do have garbage when you search, this is why, this site is constantly on people about properly submitting correct requests, posting into the previous threads and posting in the correct boards, this all eliminates the garbage threads your talking about.

Did you read this thread? There was an app already suggested in the second reply.

scottb1967
12-17-2004, 07:00 PM
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I am wondering if I can copy/download a song(s) from my favorite music artist CD into my Media Player, and then convert it to a MP3 and burn that to a CD so I can play it on my walkman MP3 player?

locustfurnace
12-17-2004, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by scottb1967@Dec 17 2004, 08:00 PM
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I am wondering if I can copy/download a song(s) from my favorite music artist CD into my Media Player, and then convert it to a MP3 and burn that to a CD so I can play it on my walkman MP3 player?
You question would be better served in here, might find an answer in this thread.

You would have to rip the music from the CD into a format. Media Player does not store music inside the applications, but it plays the music formats. The songs you play are either mp3, or wma.
You can use one of the apps listed in this thread to rip them into wav&#39;s then convert to mp3, or wma if your walkman supports it.

bontonroulee
01-12-2005, 05:02 PM
Hi guys, i&#39;m totally lost here. I&#39;ve been searching for days for what i&#39;m looking for, but the problem is, i don&#39;t know what program i&#39;m looking for.

I&#39;m trying to find a program that converts mp3&#39;s into ra&#39;s.

Any help would be appreciated.

Josh

straight talker
01-12-2005, 05:42 PM
http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html this may just do what you want i didnt install it to check every file type it converts but ra.s were in the list

bontonroulee
01-12-2005, 09:30 PM
Thanks Sraight Talker, i downloaded it, but it&#39;s not what i need, It doesn&#39;t convert mp3&#39;s into ra&#39;s. It&#39;s a nice little program though.

My seach continues.

Josh

straight talker
01-13-2005, 04:55 AM
if the merging of this thread hasnt got you sorted then have a look at this
http://www.tomdownload.com/audio_mp3/ra_to...mp3_convert.htm (http://www.tomdownload.com/audio_mp3/ra_to_mp3_convert.htm)

locustfurnace
01-13-2005, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by bontonroulee@Jan 12 2005, 10:30 PM
but it&#39;s not what i need,
Did you try the dBPowerAMP suggested in this thread?

orion
01-22-2005, 09:28 PM
Lame is a good mp3 compressor if you want mp3&#39;s, though mp3 is fading away and being rapidly replaced with various AAC (Advanced Audio Codec).


LOL, what planet are you on? AAC is more advanced than MP3, no doubt, but to try to say that AAC is rapidly replacing MP3 is a fantasy. It has been 6+ months since you posted that and MP3 is still dominating.

locustfurnace
01-22-2005, 11:49 PM
mp3 is dominating where??

Ipod/Itunes? No, cause Apple is using Mpeg-4 AAC.
Quicktime? hmm, no since thats using Mpeg-4 AAC
Satellite radio is using Mpeg-4 AAC
Nero comes with AAC encoders.
RealAudio 10 incorporates the standards-based and widely used MPEG-4 AAC codec at bitrates over 128 kbps
3GPP and 3GPP2 uses AAC
Most Divx encoders use MPEG-4 AAC.
DVD movies use AC3
The DVD Forum has chosen AAC for their DVD-A format.
Satellite transmission use MPEG2.
Nokia 9300 (cell Phone), handles - MP3, MPEG4(AAC), RA, MIDI


Mpeg4 video is using AAC, mpeg audio compression. AAC is in the MPEG4 specifications.
Where is mp3 dominating?? In the p2p networks? That does not count, even the quality is poor in p2p networks. Do you mean cause Walmart sells a bunch of mp3 players to the average home user?

.InterVideo has selected Coding Technologies&#39; aacPlus v2 codec for its MPEG-4 video transceiver and editor server. This software is already deployed by Media Socket for the mobile video ringtones and video sharing services offered on NTT DoCoMo&#39;s FOMA service. Media Socket&#39;s other customers include ATT Wireless and Verizon Wireless.

.TTPCom Ltd, the world&#39;s leading independent supplier of digital wireless technology, today announces that the Enhanced aacPlus codec (aka aacPlus v2), the 3GPP standard for high quality content delivery, will soon be available pre-integrated in AJAR, TTPCom&#39;s advanced applications platform.

.Ericsson has licensed Coding Technologies&#39; Enhanced aacPlus (aka aacPlus v2) implementations for various signal processor platforms. Ericsson Mobile Platform will incorporate this software to offer market leading mobile phone platforms including aacPlus.



MPEG-4 High Efficiency AAC is the combination of MPEG AAC and the SBR Bandwidth Extension
amendment, which was finalized during the March 2003 MPEG meeting.
Digital TV and audio industry, MPEG-2 AAC LC plus SBR will be also standardized in an amendment to MPEG-2 AAC (Part 7 of MPEG-2).
aacPlus gained its first commercial success with XM Satellite Radio.

smashed
01-24-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Lieutenantdan@Mar 11 2004, 09:18 PM
I recently recieved an MP3 player as a gift and alot of the songs i would like are in .wma format and my MP3 player for somereason cannot read .wma&#39;s. Ive been searching for a long time (months) for an MP3 converter that is 1) Free and 2) works lol. It would be a MAJOR miracle if you guys could spend some time and try to find out for me. I&#39;ve given up hope. My teacher came across this site looking for Kazaalite and shared it with the class so i figured i could check here and have some hope. If you can&#39;t find one its no biggy, but if you have any references or any clue about any, your help would be much appreciated..


Thanks
LieutenantDan
Db power amp is very good format convertor

gaby
12-16-2007, 12:19 PM
is ther is a free program to convert from ram,ra,rm to mp3 please reply which one can i download. thanks

Vorona
12-21-2007, 10:27 AM
TuneCab (http://www.tunecab.com) is the best way to convert RAX. Actually I use this converter for all kind of audio and video files

Vorona
02-26-2008, 11:05 AM
TuneCab Ultra Video version 3.1.8 released (http://www.tunecab.com)

brian2090@comcast.net
03-02-2008, 07:58 PM
I recently recieved an MP3 player as a gift and alot of the songs i would like are in .wma format ... Ive been searching for a long time (months) for an MP3 converter that is 1) Free and 2) works lol.

Thanks
LieutenantDan

Free audio conversion will usually balk at any copy protected (DRM) files in the .wma format. It's not free, unfortunately, but TUNEBITE will remove DRM from the Windows Media Files at 2x - 4x normal speed playback, rather than 1x playback with a recorder encoding the new format. If not copy protected, then I'd recommend trying dbPoweramp as noted in previous posts.

Windows 98SE
03-07-2008, 07:54 PM
Switch is very good, http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

ralconga
10-02-2008, 01:04 AM
Hi I am a newbie here in this forum. anybody here knows a good softwares that can convert Midi to mp3 or mp3 to midi ? Thank you very much for your attentions.

andy2008
11-03-2008, 09:23 AM
You can try Okoker All to Mp3 Converter (http://www.kooksoft.com/Okoker-All-to-Mp3-Converter_947.html)
Okoker All to Mp3 Converter (http://www.kooksoft.com/Okoker-All-to-Mp3-Converter_947.html) can batch convert almost any kind of Video and Audio files to Mp3, Wav, Wma. It supports a lot of formats, such as: avi, divx, xvid, mpeg, mpg, mpga, mpe, mpa, vcd, dvd, dat, vob, wmv, rm, rmvb, ra, ram, mp3, wav, wma, mov, qt, asf. The conversion speed is faster than most of others kindred software. Specially, it convert AVI, DIVX, MPEG, WAV, MP3 and other audio very fast. You can set profuse parameter to output high audio quality files.

siesta
01-24-2009, 06:19 AM
Hi I am a newbie here in this forum. anybody here knows a good softwares that can convert Midi to mp3 or mp3 to midi ? Thank you very much for your attentions.

ralconga, try a good midi to mp3 converter (http://www.mymusictools.com/articles/how-do-i-convert-midi-to-mp3.htm) called MIDI Converter Studio. I use it for a long time already. It converts large numbers of files very quickly. Besides, it supports soundfonts - you can choose any instruments for your tune.

AlexSe
07-01-2010, 01:44 AM
I use another conversion tool which is also very easy-to-use, Convert-tune. ;)
Convert-tune (http://convert-tune.com/index.html)

It converts audio files to different formats.
It has free CD Ripper and free CD Burner, and other options.
It converts video files for iPod as well.

mangos
08-20-2011, 10:23 PM
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embolism
09-24-2011, 02:04 PM
Go to Sourceforge.net checkout audio converters there you will find the a-z of them probably starting with Audacity. (:^D)

mcooper
01-16-2012, 08:46 PM
There are tracks on wma you just can convert that easy and I am not sure if there are available workarounds now, but as far as I can remember, they are still rendered pretty much useless. Though, you probably can just download a player that will also take in wma tracks. But the problem would be for mp3 player devices that do not take in any other file type.