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Curious
05-17-2004, 07:17 PM
on the P2Ps (like kazaa) how does the RIAA get the IP addresses? is it from when you download files from one of their usernames? or is it from them downloading files from your usernames? or both? anybody know? just curious as to how it works...an answer would be much appreciated.

Guest
05-25-2004, 08:45 AM
usually how it works is, say youve downloaded an eminem song, and the riaa happens to be targeting that song that day, they search for that song, and your username comes up, (now i havent used kazaa in a long time, so catch me on this) but when its downloading if you browse the host i believe it shows your ip and the list of songs you have shared.

Guest
05-25-2004, 09:00 AM
i really hope they get all your ips and perhaps this spam will stop bogging the site down

Guest
05-26-2004, 04:37 PM
They can only get you if you share so if you turn it off you cant get sued. If you just download they can't know what your ip is. PeerGuardian (http://methlabs.org/methlabs.htm) is good at blocking riaa ip's from connecting to your computer.

Guest
05-26-2004, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Guest@May 26 2004, 04:37 PM
They can only get you if you share so if you turn it off you cant get sued. If you just download they can't know what your ip is. PeerGuardian (http://methlabs.org/methlabs.htm) is good at blocking riaa ip's from connecting to your computer.
you live in dream land pal dont preach rubbish .copyright stuff is protected and downloading it is illegal stopping sharing files wont protect you thats crap and apps such as peer guardian only block known ips, read through the forums and learn a little about how things work.

guest_guest
05-26-2004, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Guest@May 25 2004, 09:00 AM
i really hope they get all your ips and perhaps this spam will stop bogging the site down
sure glad i didnt reg here..what a load of sh*t you are...cya

locustfurnace
05-27-2004, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by guest_guest+May 26 2004, 07:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (guest_guest @ May 26 2004, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Guest@May 25 2004, 09:00 AM
i really hope they get all your ips and perhaps this spam will stop bogging the site down
sure glad i didnt reg here..what a load of sh*t you are...cya[/b][/quote]
If you take notice, not a single poster (except mine) is from a registered member, all are guests post (not all guests are bad posters either&#33;). So don&#39;t blame what a few poster post on the site. Besides, if discouraging illegal acts is a bad concept to you, then yea, it is a good thing you did not register, as no one here at Oldversion condones illegal activities.
Using p2p apps is not intended for piracy. It can and is often used for accessing legal files, just look at the popularity of bit torrent and all the torrents for downloading GNU/LINUX distros, most releases are just on torrents before anywhere else.

Guest
05-27-2004, 11:24 AM
thanks for the comment locofurnace, some of us who arent registered are just as proud to visit oldversion as the unregistered who drop this kazaa spam daily, dont know others reasons but i dint register cuz i visit so many forums it would be a hassle signing in when i visit them all

Jaime Andrés
05-27-2004, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Guest@May 27 2004, 05:24 PM
thanks for the comment locofurnace, some of us who arent registered are just as proud to visit oldversion as the unregistered who drop this kazaa spam daily, dont know others reasons but i dint register cuz i visit so many forums it would be a hassle signing in when i visit them all
If you are the guest that seems to be supporting oldversion.com of late , it is just as quick to post as a registered member than as a guest. There is no ad/spy-ware so my system always remembers my login and connects without any hassle.

Guest
05-27-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Jaime Andrés+May 27 2004, 01:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jaime Andrés @ May 27 2004, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Guest@May 27 2004, 05:24 PM
thanks for the comment locofurnace, some of us who arent registered are just as proud to visit oldversion as the unregistered who drop this kazaa spam daily, dont know others reasons but i dint register cuz i visit so many forums it would be a hassle signing in when i visit them all
If you are the guest that seems to be supporting oldversion.com of late , it is just as quick to post as a registered member than as a guest. There is no ad/spy-ware so my system always remembers my login and connects without any hassle. [/b][/quote]
i visit and support many a forum ,didnt realise i had added enough content to get noticed though, i hope my contributions have been helpful to all that have read them, on a final note if you think my posts have been helpful i may register sometime

Guest
05-31-2004, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Guest Unregistered@May 27 2004, 05:25 PM
i visit and support many a forum ,didnt realise i had added enough content to get noticed though, i hope my contributions have been helpful to all that have read them, on a final note if you think my posts have been helpful i may register sometimeYes I think that could be helpful as I struggle to guess which guest you guest post as and then sometimes my loginfo gets stripped out and it ends up a guest post can you guess which ones, look for guid&#39;s, but as some look like me but are not,example: Guest << = me Guest << = not me, I&#39;m guessing the paymaster is also having the same problem guessing which guest guest posted what, as my cheque still hasnt arrived.
yes I&#39;ve seen your other guest posts in the other forums,the ones that werent mine of course,yes they were helpful so much so that I would consider fowarding a portion of my cheque (more details via p.m.)

Ok Ok&#33; so you guest right this time only another three thousand two hundred sixty <s>five</s> six to go.

To paymaster: as my cheque hasnt arrived is the pay based on quality not quantity (I actually have more posts than locustfurnace&#33; ) Those website stats are horribly unreliable for the reasons I have described but I&#39;m considering not claiming for any double posts,errors or other unrequisite postings.

also do I have to share the profits of my posts that get edited.If not I&#39;ll try blank posting and seeing if they again autofill with content.

locustfurnace
05-31-2004, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Guest@May 31 2004, 01:24 AM
also do I have to share the profits of my posts that get edited.If not I&#39;ll try blank posting and seeing if they again autofill with content.
Yes you do, thats called Collaboration&#33; (hoping I spelt that correct, else might see that magickal leper *poof* on the board again&#33;)

silent hacker
05-31-2004, 05:26 PM
all of you who use kazaa, wach out becaus im waching all of you that yous kazaa&#33;

locustfurnace
05-31-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by silent hacker@May 31 2004, 05:26 PM
all of you who use kazaa, wach out becaus im waching all of you that yous kazaa&#33;
Your watching all 60 million + users??

silent hacker
06-01-2004, 10:52 AM
no :P

zoidy
06-01-2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Guest+May 26 2004, 04:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guest @ May 26 2004, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Guest@May 26 2004, 04:37 PM
They can only get you if you share so if you turn it off you cant get sued. If you just download they can&#39;t know what your ip is. PeerGuardian (http://methlabs.org/methlabs.htm) is good at blocking riaa ip&#39;s from connecting to your computer.
you live in dream land pal dont preach rubbish .copyright stuff is protected and downloading it is illegal stopping sharing files wont protect you thats crap and apps such as peer guardian only block known ips, read through the forums and learn a little about how things work.[/b][/quote]
First of all the IP address is always revealed regardless of if you are up or downloading. While it does not apply to all jurisdications downloading files usually is not prohibited only uploading (of course the former cannot be accomplished with the latter). So, although it completely works against the idea of file-sharing disabling the upload respectively sharing files usually (depends on the jurisdication of your country) puts you on the safe side.

zoidy
06-01-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by zoidy@Jun 1 2004, 02:01 PM
.... accomplished with the ....
:huh: without

;)

locustfurnace
06-01-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by zoidy@Jun 1 2004, 02:01 PM
While it does not apply to all jurisdications downloading files usually is not prohibited only uploading (of course the former cannot be accomplished with the latter).
To clairify.
The act of using p2p is not illegal. The act of Uploading and Downloading is not illegal. The act of Sharing files is not illegal.
It&#39;s when you are downloading or uploading or hosting copyrighted works which prohibit redistribution. This applies to copyrighted movies, copyrighted music, copyrighted software.
If you are downloading the latest top songs, thats illegal. Since you did not pay for the song you have no permission to posess a copy of it. So downloading is illegal if the works prohibt copying and or redistributing.
If you create a song, you automatically own the copyright to the song, it&#39;s copyrighted by you, you can decide who can possess a copy of the song. If you want to share it with the world, you can upload it (legal) on a p2p app, and others can download it (legal). Same thing applies to videos or software.
But most people are downloading movies, songs and software that is prohibited from being copied, shared. thats the illegal part.
The only reason some people feel downloading copyrighted works prohibited from distribution is not illegal, which it is, is due to the fact that the recent press coverage of the RIAA (a company that protects songwriters copyrights) has so far only been making noise over those who are offering copyrighted songs for download.
You can not be sued for downloading songs which are in the public domain (license) or when the copyright holder permits songs to be shared. But these are few and far between on these networks.
mp3.com had many legal songs on it which could be downloaded and passed around legally. The songwriters retain the copyright, but permit people to listen to, share, burn to CD.

Guest
06-01-2004, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by locustfurnace+May 31 2004, 08:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (locustfurnace @ May 31 2004, 08:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--silent hacker@May 31 2004, 05:26 PM
all of you who use kazaa, wach out becaus im waching all of you that yous kazaa&#33;
Your watching all 60 million + users?? [/b][/quote]
60 million users that one heck of a big pile of dud files and virus ridden crap, hey figure this you kazaa lovers , if you download dud files what do you do, go get another one , and when thats dud you go get another one so thus increasing your chances of getting noticed and if your real lucky the riaa might get you before you finish downloading the whole album and then you get a huge fine and perhaps lose your computer ,your job if youre downloading at work , and if the fines big enough you may even lose your house to pay it. SAD really aint it

Guest
06-02-2004, 04:32 AM
Anyone with the name Silent_Hacker and a 5 year old trendy art pic of system of a down, or anything with system of a down, screams psuedo "angry teenage rebel" who more likely than not...is a script kiddy&#33; grow up kid.

silent hacker
06-02-2004, 08:51 AM
so im a kid now.

for your information im in the force and i hack illegal pornographic sites.

but i was just joking about im waching all users of kazaa.

Guest
06-02-2004, 09:48 AM
i should give up now hacker your starting to sound SILLY.

silent hacker
06-02-2004, 10:44 AM
so now im sound silly :P

silent hacker
06-02-2004, 10:45 AM
so whats rong with system of a down&#33;

locustfurnace
06-02-2004, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by silent hacker@Jun 2 2004, 08:51 AM
so im a kid now.

for your information im in the force and i hack illegal pornographic sites.

but i was just joking about im waching all users of kazaa.
The problem with what your saying is that, if you were a &#39;hacker&#39; you don&#39;t break into sites. Thats described as &#39;cracking&#39;, hackers; hack code to better apps, fix bugs, hack out a new port, hack a device driver to make it do amazing things, create kernels; such as the well known hacker -"Linus Torvalds" who created the Linux kernel. Another hacker; Theo Deraadt, runs the OBSD project. Which is probably the most secure OS there is.
Crackers break into sites, do damage.
And in general, people who hack don&#39;t run around proclaiming they are hackers, they just are.
Got Root?

Pete
06-02-2004, 01:36 PM
Please don&#39;t feed the trolls&#33;

locustfurnace
06-02-2004, 01:42 PM
Since the post has really gone off topic now. I&#39;ll close it.