Explorer In End Task

[martianjoe]

Just a general query as I haven't been able to locate anything about this topic, if I:

CTL + ALT + DEL

and click on Explorer, will the END TASK box come up for me to delete Explorer automatically like it does with some programs.

[pun]

No. The explorer refered to in the Close Program box is the task bar explorer. When you End Task it closes the task bar but re-opens it a few seconds later. This ends up closing the program boxes you had open on the task bar. A fast way to close everything.

[martianjoe]

thanku for your reply, however, i have just found a microsoft bulletin which states not to end task of explorer or systray in the close program box as these are an integral part of the computer system?

I do not want to click on explorer with end task, then find i have deleted the word explorer out of the close program box and cant recover without a hassle?

[Guest]

you will not delete the word EXPLORER from the box you will just as PUNY has stated end all programs that are running including anything in your sys tray that starts automatically with windows , ( usually your av scanner and things ) this will only be temporary as it will return to normal next time you reboot your system

[martianjoe]

Have just found this site:

http://www.aarp.org/computers-howto/Articl...8-scandisk.html (http://www.aarp.org/computers-howto/Articles/a2002-07-18-scandisk.html)

and to quote from the site:

"You can stop any or all programs that you feel may be interfering except the program called Explorer. This program is the Windows operating system. Keep it running or you will get a major error"

so, apparently it is not safe to delete EXPLORER?????????????

What is the major error if EXPLORER is deleted that this site is referring to, can anyone elaborate?

[locustfurnace]

EXPLORER would be the window manager. This is what creates the widgets, dialogue boxes, interaction between your programs, start menu... etc
You can stop EXPLORER from the task manager, it will restart it instantly.
You can also replace it with a different shell.

[martianjoe]

Im confused, I have no idea what you mean by a NEW SHELL, its very confusing when web sites (some) tell you that you can delete EXPLORER and SYSTRAY from the Close Box and others tell you not to. I just do not want to delete these 2 items and find my pc has inherited problems by doing so.

[pun]

Let the computer do its scan job when no other programs are running, if possible. As the scan progresses, a gauge across the bottom displays its progress. If the scan starts over repeatedly, you may have a program running in the background that is interfering with the ScanDisk's progress. If you feel this is the case, press CTRL+ALT+DEL at the same time and you will see a list of programs that are currently running on your computer. A program called FastFind is notorious for causing ScanDisk interference. If you see FastFind on the list, simply highlight it and press End Task. You can stop any or all programs that you feel may be interfering except the program called Explorer. This program is the Windows operating system. Keep it running or you will get a major error.

If you are going to Quote something at least include enough of the Quote to give the full story.

During the running of scandisk you will get a major error if you close the Explorer.

Nowhere in the article you posted the link to does it mention DELETING

To delete the Explorer.exe file you'd have to go into thw C:/windows file and delete it from there.

All the CTRL + ALT + DEL function does is open the CLOSE PROGRAM box. This is to close NOT delete programs you don't want running during this session of windows. If you close explorer while programs are running then those programs get closed as well. When Explorer re-starts again a few seconds later those programs remain closed. If you closed scandisk this way, then yes, scandisk would display an error.

The important thing to remember about CTRL + ALT + DEL is this feature CLOSES programs, it doesn't DELETE them.

[straight talker]

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navc...delete+command+ (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=ctrl%2Balt%2Bdelete+command+) google search results for that keyboard command, read a few and you will see that PUN is exactly right in everything he has said, programs cannot be lost, deleted , removed or anything by that command only CLOSED .

[martianjoe]

Thankyou all for your replies, however, as one can see from the article
that is hi-lighted, it advises NOT to stop (I'm assuming they mean close) the program EXPLORER, so, if I close EXPLORER I get a major errorosclosek
Let the computer do its scan job when no other programs are running, if possible. As the scan progresses, a gauge across the bottom displays its progress. If the scan starts over repeatedly, you may have a program running in the background that is interfering with the ScanDisk's progress. If you feel this is the case, press CTRL+ALT+DEL at the same time and you will see a list of programs that are currently running on your computer. A program called FastFind is notorious for causing ScanDisk interference. If you see FastFind on the list, simply highlight it and press End Task. You can stop any or all programs that you feel may be interfering except the program called Explorer. This program is the Windows operating system. Keep it running or you will get a major error.

[Layman]

I think if you end task in the close program box for explorer, it will close and maybe your computer will encounter a lot of problems i'm not sure if explorer will come back into the close program box like some of the other programs that do when you restart your computer?

[straight talker]

Originally posted by Layman@Oct 14 2004, 12:20 AM
I think if you end task in the close program box for explorer, it will close and maybe your computer will encounter a lot of problems i'm not sure if explorer will come back into the close program box like some of the other programs that do when you restart your computer?
YOU think , obviously not much, just so you have something else to think about , why would explorer be in the close program dialogue box if it would not return again and make your computer encounter problems if you closed it ? based on that its perhaps a self destruct feature. i think not.

TYPICAL TROLL POST

[locustfurnace]

Originally posted by martianjoe+Oct 13 2004, 01:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (martianjoe @ Oct 13 2004, 01:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You can stop any or all programs that you feel may be interfering except the program called Explorer. This program is the Windows operating system. Keep it running or you will get a major error.[/b]

Originally posted by -Layman@Oct 14 2004, 12:20 AM
I think if you end task in the close program box for explorer, it will close and maybe your computer will encounter a lot of problems i&#39;m not sure if explorer will come back into the close program box like some of the other programs that do when you restart your computer?

This was already covered earlier on in the thread. Does no one read the replies.


<!--QuoteBegin--locustfurnace@Oct 11 2004, 11:51 AM
EXPLORER would be the window manager. This is what creates the widgets, dialogue boxes, interaction between your programs, start menu... etc
You can stop EXPLORER from the task manager, it will restart it instantly.
You can also replace it with a different shell.[/quote]

[martianjoe]

Yes some of us who post/read these bulletins do read these replies, however, when confliciting information is posted, it is difficult to know what is the truth and what is fiction from some of the replies.
What I am trying to establish is:

Is it safe to End Task of EXPLORER in the Close Program box, as I am trying to establish if this is interferring with another program.

MS bulletins say not to as it is an integral part of the Windows Operating System.

If I do End Task Explorer will it return to the Close Program Box at anytime and if so, will I have any problems with my computer?

Thankyou for your assistance and you be all kind to one another now&#33;

[straight talker]

if you are unwilling to accept the help members here give,dont bother asking for any. this has already been answered in the thread .members here research and use their own built up knowledge of computers to help people dont insult them by wanting it repeating over and over this borders on TROLLING

[boris]

I thought this site was to assist members with their problems, NOT to insult them like you have with this member martianjoe, if you cannot be civil then please do not bother to post your sarcastic comments on here. If I could assist martianjoe thenm I would. Remember, you may be in the unfortunate position one day straightalker to need assistance.

[straight talker]

Originally posted by boris@Oct 17 2004, 03:42 AM
I thought this site was to assist members with their problems, NOT to insult them like you have with this member martianjoe, if you cannot be civil then please do not bother to post your sarcastic comments on here. If I could assist martianjoe thenm I would. Remember, you may be in the unfortunate position one day straightalker to need assistance.
this site does assist members and VISITORS, I was a guest here for ages before i registered to be a member , nobody was insulting anyone, the post was started by martianjoe and answered by more than one member as well as the moderator who has a vast knowledge of computers , WHY should members keep repeating themselves,if people do not trust the advice offered then it is as i stated pointless asking in the first place. and YES i have been in this position before and needed help but unlike some i trusted the advice given sorted my problems and became a member and learned a vast amount of knowledge from the good members who give help,perhaps if you were a member we could avoid people having to read comments such as this as you could email or send me a private message.

[martianjoe]

could sum1 please advise me if it is safe to end task of explorer in the close program box, if so, will it return to the close program box like the other programs that I end?

I find it all very confusing with the good people who have posted information already, however, when I read official bulletins from microsoft they say the opposite, so is it no wonder one is confused?

[troll watcher]

TROLL ALERT
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[boris]

well, thats a lovely intelligent reply isn&#39;t it to someone seeking assistance, has it ever occurred to you that martianjoe maybe quite illiterate where pc&#39;s are concerned, a little bit of understanding would not go astray would it?