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    oakley
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    Any Older version of Help & Manual than the current one v3.31 would be great..
    no cracks for the current
    Its a really good help file editor and creator.

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    Originally posted by Oldversion.com Faqs+ http://www.oldversion.com/faq.php --></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Oldversion.com Faqs @ http://www.oldversion.com/faq.php )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Why do you only have freeware and shareware?
    This is not a "warez" site. We are able to legally distribute only freeware and shareware, since they are free.[/b]

    <!--QuoteBegin--The Digital Millennium Copyright Act
    @ http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/dmca1.htm

    Makes it a crime to circumvent anti-piracy measures built into most commercial software.
    Outlaws the manufacture, sale, or distribution of code-cracking devices used to illegally copy software.
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    The &#39;No Electronic Theft&#39; Act 1992
    http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/hr2265.html


    Use the program for the 30days, then if you really enjoy the programs, purchase it. That is how you obtain a fully functional version.

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    AHHA... ok sif Iím gona spend &#036;250 on a help file editor.. lol

    What do you think most ppl are gona use a site like this for then?

    notice the old versions of

    " CuteMX
    DC++
    Kazaa
    Kazaa Lite
    LimeWire
    Morpheus
    Napster
    Scour Exchange
    WinMX
    "
    that are provided on this site, Iím sure these are just for downloading freeware and non commercial music though.... get a clue mate, this could be a useful site.

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    Personally I come here to learn a lot from people who care.
    Also I like all the free stuff ( actually I kinda loove free stuff) without the needing to steal.
    Pretty much everything here is given freely,help,advice,tools,toys,friendship,fellowshi p & I&#39;m sure the more you put in the more value you would find.
    You say
    Originally posted by oakley@Dec 8 2003, 02:49 AM
    this could be a useful site.
    This is a useful site I would struggle to find one out of my top ten that I would be sadder to be denied access to.
    If you go to the hardware store and see a screwdriver you can purchase it (its not even free&#33;) and use it to build something good or to bust a lock & destroy something, that of course is your freedom.
    How long would the hardware store last if it promoted itself as a burglary store?

    B.T.W. I like your short review of the app&#39; you requested, I am interested in what people think of the software they use however you should also read the pinned thread in the requests forum.

    Pinned: How To Request An App
    please read before posting requests
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    BIG
    BLUE If you don&#39;t like those kinds of thrills wait until the software is "out of" beta.

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    Originally posted by oakley@Dec 8 2003, 03:49 AM
    AHHA... ok sif Iím gona spend &#036;250 on a help file editor.. lol

    What do you think most ppl are gona use a site like this for then?

    that are provided on this site, Iím sure these are just for downloading freeware and non commercial music though.... get a clue mate, this could be a useful site.
    Those programs have purposes other then "stealing", its not the programs that is to blame, it is the people who abuse those programs downloading illegal content. As someone on another board wrote saying "mp3&#39;s are illegal" this is not true, the technology is used for many legal purposes such as if i chose to offer free songs from my band for people to listen to, i as the copyright holder of the music i created can offer to allow people access to my songs via an encoded format, such as the old low-quality mp3 format. This purpose is what the intention was of music compression formats, it was NOT the intention for people to share copyrighted music.
    Bit torrent, is a program that is used alot for downloading legal ISO images of Open Source software, then for obtaining illegal content. It is not the p2p apps that are wrong, it is the people who abuse it. What do you think most ppl are gona use a (computer) like this for then?
    Since i am sure so many people out there, like yourself, are using computers to download illegal content, so lets ban them all, right?
    Under YOUR logic, this would make computers and computing and illegal activity, as well as place the internet as a whole under your "illegal purposes"
    And anyways, this site has a purpose that was here before you made your presence known, and will be here for sometime in its current model, you want to know why the illegal content sites - warez sites, never last long? Its because they are breaking the law and always get shut down. If this site catered to your requests for illegal purposes, it too would not have made it this far.
    There is nothing wrong with this sites, it is VERY USEFUL, as noted by all the members and people who use this site, as well as a mention from TechTV.
    the problem lies with people who want to get everything for free without paying for it, then when they get arrested for breaking a law and the DCMA, they wonder why? If everyone did not pay for the content out there, then there would no longer be free shareware, trialware, demos to download anymore, it would be like the older days of computing where you had to purchase software from a store, and there was not sampling before you bought.
    Insulting will not make this site bend to your wishes to make you happy. LOL I think thats funny you telling the site to get a clue, and offer what you think it should have, when what you want is possibly cracks and the likes i am sure. The humour is that Your not willing to pay for things. Maybe if you were a programmer and wrote programs and had people steal your works you would be angry at the attitude of the freeloaders who only want it free, and when your asking &#036;250 dollars for a program you spent 5 years making and someone emails you saying you should make your hard work and effort free, cause the software you make "might be useful if it was free and to get a clue" you might be thinking in a different attitude.
    So i guess if you worked for 3 years to buy a car and someone stole it from you, you would think, oh well that person just made my car more useful than I. and let him steal your car.
    If you dont mind people stealing from you, thats fine for you.
    Maybe you should get a clue and pay for the software you like, as it will insure future development of the titles you enjoy. Can&#39;t kept stealing and expect the software to keep on rolling out year after year with major loss of revenue.

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    Well Goslow, the software can be found at http://www.ec-software.com/download.htm and the current version is 3.31 and i want any earlier version.

    Now where to start with locustfurnace... soo many gay calls... poor bugger, anyways, well maybe i was trying to fire you up a bit, but I didnít expect you to write an 2000 word essay on how piracy is naughty. Honestly have you never pirated any software? did you actually buy your Britney Spares CD&#39;s.
    What are you saying about the OLD low-quality mp3 format? You can encode mp3&#39;s with any quality setting you want.

    What do you think most ppl are gona use a (computer) like this for then?.....?? i didnt say computer... i said site, as in this web site, did your parents take alot of drugs in the 60&#39;s?

    "There is nothing wrong with this sites, it is VERY USEFUL"
    and this site would be MORE useful if it didnít have ppl like you crying about piracy.

    you want to know why the illegal content sites - warez sites, never last long?
    I hardly think that providing older versions of demo version software could be considered illegal.

    when they get arrested for breaking a law.... AHHHAAHHHA...HAHAHA...nuf said

    The problem with the demo version is it puts annoying "this is a demo version" tags on any help file pages created. i only want to use this program for a couple of days so &#036;250 for a student is not an option. Iím sure the programmer realises that only commercial customers are actually going to pay for this software.

    and no its not the same as stealing a car, ha, not too cleaver are you.

    If you think about it, piracy can actually help software to become more main stream, there is no way Microsoft products would be as widely used if there was some magical way of stopping illegal copies. I donít know anyone who has brought a copy of word, if ppl had to pay for it they would simply use different free software. Except for newbie girls like you.. opps another insult soz.

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    Originally posted by Guest+Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guest @ Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>did you actually buy your Britney Spares CD&#39;s.[/b]
    Why? missing some in your collection?
    Originally posted by -Guest@Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM
    What are you saying about the OLD low-quality mp3 format? You can encode mp3&#39;s with any quality setting you want.
    Mp3 still is a lossy format no matter which q switch or BR you opt to use, and a poor lossy encoder at that&#33;
    Originally posted by -Guest@Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM
    "There is nothing wrong with this sites, it is VERY USEFUL"and this site would be MORE useful if it didnít have ppl like you crying about piracy.
    Who&#39;s crying about piracy? your crying about affording the cost of software titles. And the intent of this site is to provide older Shareware & Freeware not warez or "cracks". This site would be MORE useful without people asking for illegal software, such as warez, cracks, serials or retail apps.
    Originally posted by -Guest@Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM
    Honestly have you never pirated any software?
    Don&#39;t need to steal I can afford to pay for all the software I want, most of the software I use either is Open Source or comes from the FSF, and if can&#39;t find something I want I will code one.
    Originally posted by -Guest@Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM
    The problem with the demo version is it puts annoying "this is a demo version" tags on any help file pages created.
    Which can be easily removed once you pay for the software.
    Originally posted by -Guest@Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM
    i only want to use this program for a couple of days
    Then use the demo version like its intended purpose and stop crying over the "annoying tags."
    Originally posted by -Guest@Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM
    piracy can actually help software to become more main stream, there is no way Microsoft products would be as widely used if there was some magical way of stopping illegal copies.
    Microsoft did not get "mainstream" because of piracy, Microsoft got where it is today due to licensing restrictions with the OEM&#39;s. Microsoft got to where it is because of peddling alot of F.U.D. about its competitors, It got to where it is because people think if the masses are using Windows, then it can only be Windows for themselves.
    Originally posted by -Guest@Dec 9 2003, 11:47 AM
    and no its not the same as stealing a car, ha, not too cleaver are you.
    Theft is theft, both are property. Actually you might go to jail longer for theft of software versus theft of a vehicle. guess you did not read the DMCA. So maybe your correct, they are not the same, theft of software comes with a higher penalty.
    <!--QuoteBegin--Guest
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    I donít know anyone who has brought a copy of word, if ppl had to pay for it they would simply use different free software.[/quote] Then there is your solution, since you have to pay for the Help & Manual to remove the tags, find a free .chm builder.

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    oh, you used the word lossy.. wow&#33; you must know heaps about compression then. can you tell the difference between co quality and 192 bit rate mp3&#39;s?... no you cant. I would like to see you write a better compression format.

    Im not looking for cracks at this site, did you not read my first message at all?

    "and if can&#39;t find something I want I will code one." sure.. you must have a lot of free time.

    "Which can be easily removed once you pay for the software." .. no sh

    has anyone actually gone to jail for non commercial piracy? or even been fined? no because everyone does it. just like recording tv shows is illegal but everone does it so they cant stop it.

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    Originally posted by oakley+Dec 9 2003, 10:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (oakley @ Dec 9 2003, 10:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>oh, you used the word lossy.. wow&#33; you must know heaps about compression then.* can you tell the difference between co quality and 192 bit rate mp3&#39;s?[/b]
    as i said, mp3 is a poor quality encoder at any bitrate. I dont need to write a better encoder as there already are plenty; mp4, AAC, MPC, AC3, Vorbis, and lossless ones like FLAC, APE, Shortn, then you have speex codec, GSM.....
    Originally posted by -oakley@Dec 9 2003, 10:46 PM
    Im not looking for cracks at this site, did you not read my first message at all?
    Yes i did. and you wrote
    Originally posted by -oakley@Dec 7 2003, 06:25 AM
    Any Older version of Help & Manual than the current one v3.31 would be great..
    no cracks for the current
    Originally posted by -oakley@Dec 9 2003, 10:46 PM
    "and if can&#39;t find something I want I will code one." sure.. you must have a lot of free time.
    Not all coding takes a long time, if you programmed you would know this, alot of the simple funtions can be done with shell programming or via awk or perl or python. Since the help files are simple html pages you could write your project in docbook and convert it to many formats. I am sure you could easily find a docbook to chm converter, or atleast into a RTF page. then convert your dvi to ps then to pdf, if you want a pdf book.
    <!--QuoteBegin--oakley
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    has anyone actually gone to jail for non commercial piracy? or even been fined? no because everyone does it. just like recording tv shows is illegal but everyone does it so they cant stop it.[/quote] and this makes it OK to steal. The crime is not non-commerical piracy, it is copyright infringement.

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    ok read this carefully&#33; i dont know maybe english isnt your first language but ill have another go... i said

    "Im not looking for cracks at this site"

    and

    "Any Older version of Help & Manual than the current one v3.31 would be great..
    no cracks for the current "

    what has this got to with your site, obviously your site doesnt provide cracks.

    If mp3 is such a "poor quality encoder" why is it so popular? you cant tell me that compressing music a nearly 10 times its original size say 192br and not being able to tell the diff to the original is poor... and what are the compressed file sizes like on the other formats you mentioned? not as good as mp3 i bet.

    "Since the help files are simple html pages "
    well no. they are compiled into one file, quite different.


    "and this makes it OK to steal." ... YES... yes it does.


 

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