found this old post of mine and thought i would just say,soo many members since this was posted have joined the forum and things have changed quite a bit,the archive has grown considerably and still this forum remains the most civilised i ever use,hardly any spamming and very tolerant members who share their views and help each other out immensely.thanks to eveyone who visits and regular members alike for keeping oldversion a very good forum to use.have an excellent time over the festive season and hope 2008 brings you happiness and wealth.