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    I've installed it and very,very quickly uninstalled it.

    Bloatware personified.

    If you have a reasonably fast PC and don't want to slow it down to sludge then DO NOT download this patch /OS upgrade.
    If you are reasonably capable of managing your own PC security , avoid this upgrade like the plague.

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    Jaime Andrés..

    My friends installed the latest beta on his machine (XP PRO) and he said it was as smooth as silk.
    IM using pentium 4 2.00 GHz, 248 MB ram, on XP home.

    Will it slow me down?

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    What is XP Sp2 used for? And how do i install it?

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    Originally posted by Guest182@Jul 22 2004, 11:30 PM
    What is XP Sp2 used for? And how do i install it?
    1 To patch Win XP
    2 Download it from Microsoft
    3 As if you didn't know
    4 Sorry no Troll points

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    Originally posted by Guest182@Jul 22 2004, 05:30 PM
    What is XP Sp2 used for? And how do i install it?
    You use the Microsoft patented "double-click" procedure, as if there is any other way to install software on Windows.

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    I hope its very soon

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    2006 or 2007

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    What XP Service Pack 2 will mean for you

    Last week we told you that Service Pack 2 for Windows XP will be released in August. Many of you may rightly have asked yourself: why is that important? And: What will it do for me? In this week’s Newsletter we go through the highlights in Service Pack 2 and explain what it will do for you and the security of your computer.


    XP taking security seriously.......?

    Service packs are usually simply compilations of past updates, making the process of bringing an OS up-to-date faster and more transparent. Service Pack 2 for Windows XP is going to offer much, much more than that. The SP will completely overhaul the way XP manages security threats and in many ways constitutes something closer to a completely new Operating System than a Service Pack.

    So why was it necessary? Following the Blaster worm in mid-2003 the top brass at Microsoft decided that something out of the ordinary had to be done about the security problems in XP. Central to the improvements in the resulting Service Pack is the Windows Security Center(WSC).


    The Windows Security Center

    The Security Center was not intended for use in XP at all – but was to have been included in the next generation Windows Operating System- Longhorn. The purpose of the Security Center is not, as the name suggests, to provide security as such, but to give an overview of the security systems on a pc and inform the user whether these a) exist B) are updated, and c) enabled.

    The XP intrusion firewall, which is included in all XP Operating Systems already, will be changed to be enabled by default, as very few seem to have realised that it is there and even fewer actually use it.

    Further changes are implemented in Internet Explorer. There will be a popup killer and an information bar informing users of security concerns as they arise and an add-on manager to provide an overview of the plug-inns which have been downloaded and installed.


    Blocking pop-ups

    Lastly, the Service Pack will put further emphasis on certificates and digital signatures - a long running battle between those who believe that this is the way ahead and the puzzled consumer who does not have the time/can't be bothered, to read and verify such information for every download made.

    Security Warning

    Digital Signature


    So how do you get hold of it? Like all other Windows updates it will be be available, when released, through "Automatic Updates". As it is a 100Mb update the download can be stopped and resumed at any time so it doesn't completely hog slower connections for hours on end.

    online @ 7/23/2004 1:38:00 PM

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    Originally posted by Guest+Jul 24 2004, 08:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guest @ Jul 24 2004, 08:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The Windows Security Center

    The Security Center was not intended for use in XP at all – but was to have been included in the next generation Windows Operating System- Longhorn. The purpose of the Security Center is not, as the name suggests, to provide security as such, but to give an overview of the security systems on a pc and inform the user whether these a) exist B) are updated, and c) enabled.

    The XP intrusion firewall, which is included in all XP Operating Systems already, will be changed to be enabled by default, as very few seem to have realised that it is there and even fewer actually use it.
    [/b]

    Microsoft&#39;s "firewall" has been included in the NT systems for a long time, this is nothing new. If you look on Windows 2000, it is included. Might have been included in NT4 as well. But since home XP is a combination of 9x & NT, and all those who ran 9x series never had their hands on Microsoft&#39;s packet filtering, it appears as something "innovative."
    It is NOT a replacement for a strong firewall. Alot of the tools MS includes are basic to say the least. This is because MS is really walking a thin-line when including certain items in their OS. If they would create a strong packet filtering app, they could face accusations of trying to monopolizes once more. Even years ago, MS stated that the included disk defragmenter was not a replacement for a "good" defrag too, such as Norton&#39;s Speed Disk. It was just packed for those people who need a basic tool. Nothing too fancy or powerful.

    So now its referred to as an "intrusion firewall"? Who sad that? What intrusion detection system are in place? How does this intrusion notify when a break-in does occur? Does it email you? Does it write a error message to the console? No...it can&#39;t do that. It must pop-up some blue screen or a widgeted box.
    When did it graduate from being a packet filter to an IDS? I&#39;d suspect the original writer (not the poster) of the article was just tossing words around, as if they apply to all things called &#39;firewall&#39;. IDS is not the same thing as a &#39;firewall&#39;. They are used side by side with firewalls.

    Originally posted by -Guest@Jul 24 2004, 08:12 AM
    Further changes are implemented in Internet Explorer. There will be a popup killer and an information bar informing users of security concerns as they arise and an add-on manager to provide an overview of the plug-inns which have been downloaded and installed.
    Blocking pop-ups
    Blocking pop-ups is simple in IE, just disable javascripting, or use the much overlooked rating system of IE, it works well.
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    @Jul 24 2004, 08:12 AM
    Lastly, the Service Pack will put further emphasis on certificates and digital signatures - a long running battle between those who believe that this is the way ahead and the puzzled consumer who does not have the time/can&#39;t be bothered, to read and verify such information for every download made.
    [/quote]
    Certificates and digitial signatures? Thats fine for business transactions, which has already been used for sometime now, with Verisign.
    But where the problems occur, are not on those sites already established using these, the problems come from the small sites people frequent less often. This would really be only useful if you never stray off the "business" side of the internet. and will be absolutely usless when surfing homepages, smaller websites.
    After a while, each site people view, with a pop-up asking you if you trust the site and wish to examin the certificate, this will become annoying for the average home surfer, and will become nothing useful and just something people wish to disable. If every time you opened a webpage you got a notice about a certificate, you&#39;d eventually just click OK/ACCEPT, without actually examining the contents. This does nothing for the masses, just the few people who visit a single page a day.
    Besides, faking a certifcate is really simple. And for the most part. most homeusers do not understand what all the MD5 digest, CN, SSL, TLS, Ciphers....etc. means.
    How does one know if the certifcate is valid, just because the certificate passes validation does not mean it is trustworthy. It still depends on what the user believes to be trustworthy. And if you trust the certificates validity and signers.

    Lastly, if this becomes the Microsoft IE norm, what will become of smaller sites or home personal webpages, of people who wont/ can&#39;t afford to buy a certificate. It&#39;s difficult enough to have users pay for the software they like and download, now each site would need to pay for a certificate?

    The biggest threat to Microsoft&#39;s &#39;security&#39; is Microsofts itself. Apple OS, *BSD, Gnu/LINUX users do not have any of these issues, such as viruses. The problem comes from Microsofts zeel in wanting everything in the world to have an email account, to be reachable by IM, to share, or &#39;collaborate&#39; with each other & to make their programs talk to other programs and do each other&#39;s bidding. (see the article about Microsoft wanting to be the developers of your cars braking system, with the ability to email? and updates the braking software automatically&#33)
    There is no structure of security in these programs, no way to ask for passwords BEFORE running code from an email. How about using something like PAM (password authentication modules) before running a MS doc&#39;s embedded script on a users system. Or keeping Outloook from always parsing emails; looking for email address and web address and launching them once discovered without asking.

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    Originally posted by Guest@Jul 24 2004, 08:12 AM
    What XP Service Pack 2 will mean for you

    Last week we told you that Service Pack 2 for Windows XP will be released in August. Many of you may rightly have asked yourself: why is that important? And: What will it do for me? In this week’s Newsletter we go through the highlights in Service Pack 2 and explain what it will do for you and the security of your computer.


    XP taking security seriously.......?

    Service packs are usually simply compilations of past updates, making the process of bringing an OS up-to-date faster and more transparent. Service Pack 2 for Windows XP is going to offer much, much more than that. The SP will completely overhaul the way XP manages security threats and in many ways constitutes something closer to a completely new Operating System than a Service Pack.

    So why was it necessary? Following the Blaster worm in mid-2003 the top brass at Microsoft decided that something out of the ordinary had to be done about the security problems in XP. Central to the improvements in the resulting Service Pack is the Windows Security Center(WSC).


    The Windows Security Center

    The Security Center was not intended for use in XP at all – but was to have been included in the next generation Windows Operating System- Longhorn. The purpose of the Security Center is not, as the name suggests, to provide security as such, but to give an overview of the security systems on a pc and inform the user whether these a) exist B) are updated, and c) enabled.

    The XP intrusion firewall, which is included in all XP Operating Systems already, will be changed to be enabled by default, as very few seem to have realised that it is there and even fewer actually use it.

    Further changes are implemented in Internet Explorer. There will be a popup killer and an information bar informing users of security concerns as they arise and an add-on manager to provide an overview of the plug-inns which have been downloaded and installed.


    Blocking pop-ups

    Lastly, the Service Pack will put further emphasis on certificates and digital signatures - a long running battle between those who believe that this is the way ahead and the puzzled consumer who does not have the time/can&#39;t be bothered, to read and verify such information for every download made.

    Security Warning

    Digital Signature


    So how do you get hold of it? Like all other Windows updates it will be be available, when released, through "Automatic Updates". As it is a 100Mb update the download can be stopped and resumed at any time so it doesn&#39;t completely hog slower connections for hours on end.

    online @ 7/23/2004 1:38:00 PM
    this information was taken from a bullguard correspondence relating to the xp sp2


 

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